stardiviner
12/24/2013 - 7:03 AM
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<twb> I'm kinda fed up with that.
<twb> I mean, UTF-8 isn't that difficult. Can we not just have "smart" quotes
+ directly in the .tex [14:13]
<twb> ``foo'' looks oldschool even to me
<bpalmer> How about we just use ' and " directly and simply.
* bpalmer hates how copying and pasting from every website in the world,
+ apparently, no longer works in any of /me 's OS X terminals [14:14]
<twb> Time for a real browser - emacs-w3m
<stardiviner> I get this error: Invalid face reference: quote [86 times] . After
+ a long time bisect debug my init files, I found the problem is in
+ (setq-default mode-line-format ...) . I paste my config at here:
+ https://gist.github.com/stardiviner/8109193 . And I found when I use
+ =set= instead of =setq-default=, then there is no this invalid face
+ reference: quote message. But I want to apply this vailable global, so I
+ have to use [14:24]
<stardiviner> =seqt-default=. Does anyone can help me ?
<twb> stardiviner: you are talking about line 1? [14:26]
<hoactzin> how can i ssh-add myself in a running emacs daemon? [14:28]
<mtp> what [14:29]
<hoactzin> i want to authenticate with an agent
<mtp> put down the chocolate-covered banana and step away from the european
+ currency system?
<stardiviner> twb: I'm talking about error message invalid face reference: quote,
+ but yes, because I found the problem is in (setq-default), and might not.
<twb> ,bisect [14:30]
<fsbot> I think bisect is If "emacs --debug-init" doesn't help, comment out half
+ of ~/.emacs and try to reproduce the issue. Recurse as necessary. See
+ also ,,-q and ,,ielm.
<stardiviner> twb: I did the bisect.
<twb> Also, if you run "LC_ALL=C emacs --debug-init" and paste the full
+ backtrace, I can try to analyse it.
<twb> stardiviner: but your first line, the setq-default, is very long. Try
+ bisecting over clauses in that? [14:31]
<stardiviner> twb: And no Backtrace error at all, just an failed message in
+ buffer *Messages*.
<twb> OK.
<twb> ,tdoe
<fsbot> From memory, tdoe is M-x toggle debug on error RET, reproduce the
+ problem, then <pastebin> the backtrace (or study it yourself)
<stardiviner> twb: I already bisect that long config, nothing wrong, and as I
+ said, when I change (setq-default) swith (setq), then the error message
+ is gnome. [14:32]
<stardiviner> s/gnome/gone/
<twb> But it doesn't work, I guess?
<stardiviner> twb: I also already tried that too....
<stardiviner> twb: Yes. really weird ...
<twb> stardiviner: I don't know of anything else to help
<stardiviner> twb: Can this be a bug of Emacs ? [14:33]
<twb> I don't know.
<twb> I did not understand the error you reported. [14:34]
<stardiviner> twb: me too.... anyway, I should send an email to Emacs mailing
+ list.
<mtp> you should come up with a salient repro
<twb> +1 [14:36]
<stardiviner> mtp: Are you talking to me ?
<mtp> are you having an incoherent problem? [14:37]
<mtp> do you see any other conversation in here?
<twb> mtp means "yes"
<stardiviner> mtp: Sorry, because I checked previous lines, and found you have
+ some conversation, and you have not type my nick, so I asked. [14:38]
<mtp> ox [14:39]
<bpalmer> in the language of my people, mtp means "yes" [14:40]
<stardiviner> twb: Can you do me a favor? test my paste config in gist, and
+ restart Emacs to see whether you can see the failed message "Invalid face
+ reference: quoet" in your *Messages* buffer.
<twb> stardiviner: ask the mailing list. Then it is not my problem :-)
<mtp> no fair solving the cryptogram for him :(
<stardiviner> Did I just do something wrong? If yes, just tell me, don't use
+ metaphor. [14:41]
<twb> I loaded the first command, the setq-default, into tmp.el. Then I did
+ "emacs24 -Q -l tmp.el". I got no error. [14:42]
<mtp> it sounds like: you configured something wrong
<mtp> it also sounds like: you don't want to troubleshoot
<bpalmer> stardiviner: without testing anything, try removing the quotes in forms
+ like face '(:background "dim gray") ; particularly if they're not in an
+ eval block
<bpalmer> but yes, as mtp suggests: start removing clauses [14:43]
<bpalmer> it is almost certainly *not* an issue about setq vs setq-default
+ behavior.
<stardiviner> twb: I see, Because I fork this config from other's repo, so I need
+ to back to check more. and Thanks so much.
<stardiviner> bpalmer: ok [14:44]
<mtp> don't use someone else's config unless you know exactly what it does
[14:45]
<stardiviner> mtp: alright, you looks like I do'nt want to troubleshoot, might
+ it's my fault. But I just want to say, I did everything I know, google,
+ and bisect, and debug-on-error. That's all I know, I can not do better
+ with what I don't know.
<mtp> i think your first problem is trying to find answers on google [14:46]
<mtp> putting random words into search engines is NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR
+ PROBLEM-SOLVING
<stardiviner> mtp: well, tell me the real solution to find answer. [14:47]
<mtp> <mtp> don't use someone else's config unless you know exactly what it does
<stardiviner> mtp: ok, my fault. [14:48]
<stardiviner> mtp: I think you're a master at first, at least looks like, but
+ now, I don't think so. [14:49]
<mtp> i'm not a master [14:50]
<mtp> i'm just tired of hearing "i took someone else's config, got an error,
+ googled random words, and decided it's a bug in the platform"
<stardiviner> Maybe I'm stupid, but I don't think it's a true problem in my
+ problem. [14:52]
<rryoumaa> yo dawg [14:53]
<rryoumaa> huh, new news. the point goes to bol problem in shell /also/ happens
+ in terminal. [14:55]
<rryoumaa> and lsblk might trigger it there too
<twb> stardiviner: mtp's right, I just didn't want to be that grumpy to a newbie.
[14:56]
<mtp> when people are calling me grumpy on irc, that usually means i'm tired of
+ being on irc [14:57]
<mtp> good night
<twb> gn8
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